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Old 12-28-2017, 06:29 PM   #15
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They could have simply not told us about the price drop and we'd never know.
All in all, I think La Mesa is a good place to do business with. We were not pleased with the delivery. Things not working that they should have caught before we showed up to take delivery. They did put us up in a local campground for a week while they ordered parts and did repairs.

I would tell CArver that if they offered him NADA retail for his coach, I doubt they are aggressively discounting MSRP. My deal also was off Winny's MSRP sheet and he should ask to see it on the coach he's interested in. His coach wholesale is probably about 20% less that the "online" NADA low retail with no accessories selected. He could also ask to see the wholesale book value of his coach, which is not the same as online NADA.

Like others have told him, the 38Q floor plan is hard to beat in a gas or diesel coach. And the same can be said for the 37F. I think Winnebago will regret dropping the Adventurer line

Get it for the right price, get over year "1" repair issues and he'll love it.
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Old 12-28-2017, 06:35 PM   #16
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We looked at RVs for 6 months. Fleetwood, Newmar, Thor (ugh) and Tiffin. The Adventurer had them all beat for amenities, build quality, features. In fact, we would have had to buy a Journey DP just to get equal quality we were getting in our Adventurer. Which would have been $100K more.

It came down to the nicest most complete Gas coach on the market (besting Newmar's Canyon Star, too) Or spend $10k more to get the cheapest DP on the market with not the same quality interior and features.

We feel we made the right decision.
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:50 PM   #17
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We also think that the 38Q has the perfect interior layout. Americanrascal has had the most problems of anyone I have read about. I am not sure I would have stuck it out.

Our only problem with our 38Q was the fridge was not anchored to the wall. It fell over and took out the microwave. Could not of been found on the PDI. FACTORY FAULT. Several on this site had the same problem. It has been problem free since.

I would open the fridge doors and pull them toward you to see if it is anchored to the wall. I think you will be very happy with the 38Q.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:24 AM   #18
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Our only problem with our 38Q was the fridge was not anchored to the wall. It fell over and took out the microwave. Could not of been found on the PDI. FACTORY FAULT. Several on this site had the same problem. It has been problem free since.

I would open the fridge doors and pull them toward you to see if it is anchored to the wall. I think you will be very happy with the 38Q.
Cover Dog is absolutely correct about that fridge! Please check it and give it a good tug at the top to make sure it was properly anchored. There should be no play or movement at all. There is a strap at the top that's supposed to go from the top hinges to the rear wall frame for anchors. Apparently they missed the wall frame anchors when setting it. Like Cover Dog ours fell out also while making a turn, destroying the microwave and the fridge.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:22 AM   #19
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We just traded our beloved 2010 Adventurer 35P with the workhorse 8.1/Allison, for a 2017 38Q 26K chassis F53/6 speed..........the last one in Lazy Days inventory. This is our 4th coach.....the 8.1 Allison was a great combination but the F53 w/6 spd. is equal to the task.
We had a tough time getting out of Lazy Days after our PDI....we spent 8 days in the transfer lot getting things taken care of. They backed our new coach into our old coach which did some minor damage, but it had to go into the body shop/paint.....it took the 4 days to resolve that issue. They did however put us up in a motel for 2 days, while jockeying us around to get repaired. It took them 2 days to transfer the Tyron bands from our old coach to the new coach....a whole day to remove our mud flap from the old to reinstall onto the new.
As for warranty work, we have been very lucky.......we did have a problem with the curb side slide (bad motor/circuit board)....work was done by LeMesa.......no complaints, they were very good. all the other small minor repairs, I took it upon myself to do.
We love the floorplan.....though I miss the basement a/c, and the drivers door, I guess I will live without them.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:41 AM   #20
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I forgot to mention about the 2 most important things that really was a problem.....the residential micro/convection door does not stay closed very well while underway.......it can open and the glass turntable slide out and "crash" had to clean up glass for days, still find a piece here and there.
The other problem is the residential fridge had a flimsy plastic lock for the freezer.....(not great, but serves the purpose), but the double doors have no locking device......by putting something through the door handle will prevent the door flying open while underway.
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Our new Adventurer has a very secure lock on both the microwave and the freezer. And the fridge doors have never opened under way.
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when we took delivery of our 2016 Suncruiser 38Q we found that the convection/microwave door would not solidly latch closed. dealer swapped out the unit but the problem persisted. while we were waiting for a solution from the factory we used bungees to keep it closed. a few weeks later the oven mfg came up with a new design latch that worked. you might check with the oven mfg.

the larger issue is why this wasn't caught at the factory when the unit rolled off the assembly line; during transport or certainly during the PDI at the dealer. this was just the beginning of our troubles with our new but now out of warranty 38Q...21 different issues in all during the first 15-months of ownership and about 7-months of actual use. some issues were major like the front street side slide not extending and three different water leaks in the same place and some not so much like one of the footstools on the couch falling apart but all were troublesome.

I finally wrote a 12-page letter to Winnebago Industries listing in great detail all of the issues we've experienced and sent it to the chairman, CEO and three VP's. the upshot was that Winnie picked up about 20% of the repairs but virtually all of them can be traced back to a lack of proper quality control and/or poorly engineered parts (Schwintek/Lippert) both of which are Winnie's responsibility to catch before the RV rolls onto the dealer's lot. to their credit our dealer's service dept. has generally been great.

as for securing the resi fridge...the swivel "lock" on the freezer works well and both of the main doors are secured with the same sort of heavy duty drawer/cabinet latch. we've never had a door pop open on us.



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Our microwave has that same cabinet/drawer latch like your photo shows.
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the lach in my photos is on our fridge not the MW. suggest you contact whirlpool or whoever mfg your oven to enquier about the re-designed latch. good luck.
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:27 AM   #25
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Not trying to over do this -but just want to clarify a few things on late model 38Q's. The 38Q fridge MAY have 2 unique problems that you may wish to check.

First is the doors may sometimes pop open while underway on the fridge if extra locking mechanisms are not added. We added an aftermarket device that works well to keep them secure.

The more dangerous fridge issue is that the strap designed to secure the entire fridge to the wall, on some units may not have been installed properly allowing the ENTIRE refrigerator to fall out of its slot and across the kitchen causing damage to the kitchen microwave area and the fridge. In my case this happened while making a 90 degree left turn in the vehicle. If while under construction the strap used to secure the fridge to its top hinges was not properly bolted into a wall frame member behind the fridge the fridge could easily tip over and out of its slot. Its worth a good tug on the front of the fridge to make sure its in there tight.

When we visited the factory in Forest City this past summer for several issues, one of which was the microwave door opening while in transit, the techs installed a new latch underneath the door of the existing microwave. They advised later units (2017+ ?) had this newer latch system so they added the additional latch device to make ours secure. Sounds like that was pretty common issue.
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