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Old 02-12-2019, 05:56 PM   #1
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2019 Sunstar TV wiring

I have a 2019 Winnie Sunstar. I am trying to work out how to watch satellite on all the TVs as advertised during the sales process. The only wiring is coax - all satellite receivers use HDMI or AV output these days. The switch box does not route AV or HDMI. After spending a large sum on the rig I would expect it be wired for HDMI. As it is, the only thing I can watch on the bedroom and outdoor TVs are antenna channels. I can watch sat on the main TV, but only if I dangle the sat cable through the dinette window, mount the receiver above the table and use the one and only HDMI socket in the coach. This is not acceptable as the window gap lets the cold air in and it is pain in the neck to have to do this every time I set up.

I have tried an RF modulator but the picture quality was terrible - unwatchable.

I also tried an expensive professional HDMI to coax modulator, but that was a non-starter because it had a fan inside that was louder than the heater!

The dealer has not come up with a solution as of today, basically saying yes, that's the way it is....

I am very disappointed that Winnebago have not kept up with current TV/entertainment technology on their Motorhomes.

Has anybody else run into this? If so did you resolve it? If so how?

Cheers, Keith
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:18 PM   #2
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I have a 2019 27pe and have been fighting the same issue since August. I called Winnebago and they don’t have a good solution either. Right now I have a WiFi HDMI modulator but it only supports 1 tv. I did the rf modulator too with a lousy picture. The HDMI plug by the TV IS basically for a DVD. I HAD A Carryout + 3 installed that supports 2 tv’s. The only option I have found (which I have not done)is to run a second cable to the bedroom and down the wall and mount a second receiver and use the WiFi modulator in the front room and nothing for the outside tv. It’s amazing that there are no HDMI outlets through out the coach. If you happen to find a solution I would love to hear it. Good Luck
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:33 AM   #3
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Thanks for the reply. I have not tried a Wifi HDMI modulator - how does that work? Can you send me a link to the one you bought? I am thinking of having the dealer install HDMI cables to all the TVs, but don't know if that is feasible, I don't want them ripping the panels off the walls etc.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:13 AM   #4
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https://www.amazon.com/Nyrius-Transm...jgL&ref=plSrch

This is what I am using. The dongle plugs into the receiver and the small base station plugs into the USB port on the tv and electric plug. It transmits the signal to one tv. My dealer said to run HDMI plugs they would have to drill through the roof and drop cables and mount the plugs on the walls. Can’t drop on the inside walls because of insulation. Unbelievable Huh?
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:42 AM   #5
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Not a great solution but you could purchase a older Satellite receiver that has a coax output. For Dish the VIP 211 and VIP 711 would be options for this. Dish still works with those receivers. Or did when I had a 211.

I’m surprised WBGO has slipped backwards on this. They’ve been running HDMI to TVs in coaches for years. My 2017 has HDMI to every TV and a HDMI to Cat5 swithcher to control it all.

There are lots of wireless HDMI solutions as pointed out above.

Jeepster05, be aware that even though the Carryout G3 dish supports two receivers that there is a major issue with that option. The first receiver is a master and the second receiver can only watch programming on the same Satellite as the master. So if the master is watching a program on Satellite 110 the second receiver can only view different programming if it is on Satellite 110. This is a major weakness that many people miss when they buy a small dome SAT dish.
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Old 02-13-2019, 09:15 AM   #6
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I have used a Brightlink New HDMI Extender Set Over Cat5e/6 Cable Full HD [email protected] Uncompressed Signal Upto 50m/165ft Away (50m) to extend a HDMI output to a distant TV and it works great. Combine with a HDMI A-B switch to choose between two TVs. I use it at my house to extend my Dish Hopper 3 over a 50 foot Cat 6 data communications cable run.

My 2015 Vista 27N had a HDMI cable pre-installed from the main TV to the cabinet intended for entertainment equipment, and a RGB Component Cable from there to the outside TV. Perfect for the Hopper 3 which has simultaneous RGB component and HDMI outputs.

I also added an amplified Component Cable 1 -> 2 splitter near the outside TV and ran a Component Cable from there to the bedroom TV so I can watch the Sat on the bedroom TV, too.
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Old 02-13-2019, 09:37 AM   #7
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Not a great solution but you could purchase a older Satellite receiver that has a coax output. For Dish the VIP 211 and VIP 711 would be options for this. Dish still works with those receivers. Or did when I had a 211.

Iím surprised WBGO has slipped backwards on this. Theyíve been running HDMI to TVs in coaches for years. My 2017 has HDMI to every TV and a HDMI to Cat5 swithcher to control it all.

There are lots of wireless HDMI solutions as pointed out above.

Jeepster05, be aware that even though the Carryout G3 dish supports two receivers that there is a major issue with that option. The first receiver is a master and the second receiver can only watch programming on the same Satellite as the master. So if the master is watching a program on Satellite 110 the second receiver can only view different programming if it is on Satellite 110. This is a major weakness that many people miss when they buy a small dome SAT dish.

I was aware of the Carryout restrictions but I didnít want to drill a hole in the roof, run the coax on the outside of the wall, and mount a shelf on the wall for the receiver to sit on so if Iím not hooked up to cable tv I just watch over the air channels. All because Winnebago couldnít run hdmi outlets. The only reason I would want a second outlet is so we could watch satellite when we go to bed. I have a tailgater and receiver From my old coach I could use for the other tvís but still have the issue of hdmi.
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Old 02-13-2019, 12:15 PM   #8
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I am going to push this with WBGO, but in the meantime I will go with the HDMI/Wifi solution for now - that will at least allow me to hook up the sat to the main TV. By the way, there is a sat coax connector in the water bay on my 2019 unit that is connected to the TV distribution cupboard, so no need to run COAX to the other side of the rig. The problem is there are no HDMI or AV cables running to that locker to connect the TVs. I can't even hook up a DVD or Roku in that cupboard.
Thanks for the responses.
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Old 02-13-2019, 01:08 PM   #9
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I am going to push this with WBGO, but in the meantime I will go with the HDMI/Wifi solution for now - that will at least allow me to hook up the sat to the main TV. By the way, there is a sat coax connector in the water bay on my 2019 unit that is connected to the TV distribution cupboard, so no need to run COAX to the other side of the rig. The problem is there are no HDMI or AV cables running to that locker to connect the TVs. I can't even hook up a DVD or Roku in that cupboard.
Thanks for the responses.
Not sure which entertainment center you have. I have a Magnadyne VCS-10. It has an AV connection in the back for the DVD that will let you watch DVD’s on all TVs but not in HD. I hook the AV cables to the back of the dvd to the one in back of the entertainment center.
The coax connection in the bay is for a portable satellite. That only gets it to the entertainment center. Still no HDMI outlet. Good luck. Big issue with me too.
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There are also HDMI over coax adapters that you might be able to use with the existing wiring...
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:32 PM   #11
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I have the same switch box - Magnadyne VCS-10. I have tried plugging in multiple devices using the AV input to the box (DVD, Roku, Dish VIP 211z and none of them worked on any of the TVs. I'm thinking now that the Magnadyne AV switch circuit is likely not working - i'll have the dealer replace it.

I did try an HDMI over coax, but the fan noise was too loud - I didn't even try installing it.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:45 PM   #12
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The magnadyne has excellent support by calling them. I called them because my dvd wouldn’t work and usually your tv has to be on channel 3 but we got mine to work by putting it on channel 4
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The magnadyne has excellent support by calling them. I called them because my dvd wouldnít work and usually your tv has to be on channel 3 but we got mine to work by putting it on channel 4
I apologize. I have said I am using AV. I am using the rca cables for my dvd.
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:26 AM   #14
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I figure AV and RCA are the same cable. Red yellow and white. I did manage to get the DVD working on the AV cable, but the picture to the main TV is terrible. The other 2 TVs get a reasonable non HD picture.
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