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Old 05-06-2019, 09:51 AM   #1
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How important is a surge protector for my new rv the best one is 337$
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Old 05-06-2019, 01:06 PM   #2
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Good Question. If you ever plug into shore power, you may want one to see if the electricity is good. You need to read the serge protector for it to work. I was at my uncles house and plugged in to his power for the first time and he had an open neutral. That is what my surge protector said when I plugged the coach in. The new inverter/charger was about $2000.00 and the labor to install it was about the same. If you read the surge protector it can save you $4000.00. I am learning to read. I mostly boondock and run the generator to charge the batteries up. I just replaced a relay and now my batteries charge when I drive the coach too.

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My Salesman was insistent that I buy both a surge protector and a water pressure regulator.
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My Salesman was insistent that I buy both a surge protector and a water pressure regulator.
That's what salesmen do!

This time he was right.
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Old 05-06-2019, 04:03 PM   #5
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Since just getting a 2017 Sunstar, I have not heard anyone say they are not absolutely essential. I am about to order a Surge Guard 34950 (50 Amps) and thought I'd pause for some input. First, this works for a 30 amp source as well as 50 right? What about 15-20 amps circuits? 2nd, they tout that this newer (one year old?) model does analysis and protection on the load side (in the coach) not just the source side (pedestal). Sounds good; is that a big deal? 3rd. any other suggestions? I guess if good ones are all in the $300 range, I dont' need to worry about saving a few $$ on a lesser known brand.


Edit: I see there's now a 34951 model that has been out just a couple of months.


Side question; is there some (minor) protection in the transfer switch? thought I heard a comment about that, but that's not it's main purpose, right? And it could be part of the problem if there is one on the load side, even a loose wire in it?



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Old 05-06-2019, 04:35 PM   #6
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Astock64 - I would consider it essential. It's cheap insurance. Ours has saved us from low voltage at the pedestal in a state park.
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Be sure to get a a protector better than entry level. You want one that will not pass power unless it senses a properly wired pedestal outlet within a save voltage range. They also have a 2 minute time delay feature. If power is interrupted, it will delay connecting thru power for 2 minutes. This delay allows Air Conditioner / Heat Pumps be safely restarted without the Compressor Motor being damaged.

Personally I use the Surge Guard 35530 Hardwire model on my Vista with 30 amp shore cable, that can be bought for as little as $ 188 on Amazon.com right now. The hardwire version is cheaper and does not have to be messed with each time you set up and tear down. I mounted it in line with the shore cable in the basement right before the transfer switch box.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:15 PM   #8
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Ted,

I would echo the others in that a surge protector is an absolute necessity. Cheap insurance! However, it will not protect you from a loose wire on a transfer switch. Our second trip in our Aspect 30J resulted in our transfer switch being fried. It was the result of a loose wire and not from the shore power being erratic. Winnebago actually had a recall on this particular transfer switch but it was the year before ours was manufactured. We are the second owners so it didn't matter anyway. We replaced it and haven't had any issues since then.

I am not familiar with your particular surge protector that you are looking at but we did buy a portable one for ours. There is a difference in the portable ones between the 30 amp and 50 amp as the plug in is different. I would recommend that you purchase one that is for your specific needs. If you are getting an installed unit, then you should be fine for whatever you're bringing in from shore power.

As far as the water pressure regulator, well, another must. We keep ours at 50# and the owners manual calls for a max of 50#. We stayed at a family member's home and hooked up water to their yard hydrant. They had 70# at the hydrant which I am thinking might have been too much for our rig.

Cheap insurance on both accounts! Good luck!

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If you have the room to install it, I recommend a hard-wired surge protector over a portable one. Nothing to remember and you don't need to be concerned about theft or loss. Progressive Industries makes a quality, popular version. Here's a link to their 50A model ($275.75 on Amazon):

https://www.progressiveindustries.net/ems-lchw50

Installation is a pretty straightforward DIY job. If you don't have room for a hard-wired model, Progressive also has a portable line.
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:16 AM   #10
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thanks guys. I did order the new Surge Guard 50A. I'm not concerned about forgetting to us it, it's mainly the theft potential. If the locking ring on the unit is not enough to stop a pair of bolt cutters, I'll make a box or something secure enough that a plasma cutter would be needed.
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Astock64 - I would consider it essential. It's cheap insurance. Ours has saved us from low voltage at the pedestal in a state park.
Since the OP mentioned cost, let's assume that money is important and spending it is often a choice between several essential items.

If you believe that a surge protector will protect from a lightning strike, then get one if your area is prone to lightning strikes. I'm not 100% sure about that if your coach gets a big enough surge.

However, if low voltage is your concern (and rightfully so) then get a Kil-a-Watt for about $20. Useful little tool that tells you the voltage, how many watts each of your appliances use, and several other neat facts. It's like a volt-meter, but measures by being plugged into one of your outlets...
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Surge protector

Best one is progressive industries. Lifetime guarantee. Is you 100,00 dollar motorhome worth 400 dollars. Your choice
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Old 05-12-2019, 05:48 PM   #13
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For our 30A 29R, I purchased and hardwired a Hughes Autoformer RV2130-SP. We are just completing an 11 month trip with more than 80 campgrounds. The Autoformer protected us several times in the southeast and some olde parks that were not putting out enough voltage...far less expensive than a new AC, refrigerator or inverter/charger.

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My Salesman was insistent that I buy both a surge protector and a water pressure regulator.
Ask yourself how much your electric appliances are worth? Do you charge your phones and laptops? All these things are ruined if there is an electric issue. Your ATS will not protect enough.

As for the pressure regulator. Same thing. Nothing to ruin a trip like blown plumbing and a flood in the RV. I have the adjustable regulator with a gauge. Would only get that kind. I have used the others, too much of a "trust" factor.

Spend the small amounts now to protect against the big amounts later.

Anyone who says you do not need one, is a big gambler.
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