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Old 08-24-2007, 06:39 AM   #29
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Verizon is basiclly trying to close "back door" accessablity, as some have called it, by monitoring the data usage, not just minutes, on an account. Some can probably still connect with their cell phone on a limited basis and not raise a flag. However as the link below notes, if data usage excedes 5GB/Line, then they basically know what you're doing.

http://b2b.vzw.com/productsservices/wirelessinternet/br...ndaccessconnect.html
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:39 AM   #30
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I recently upgraded my Verizon broadband to a new Rev. A card, the USB 720. I am quite impressed with the speed improvement. The download speed more than doubled. Here is a speed test taken today:

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Old 08-24-2007, 12:38 PM   #31
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LK23,
Now try that speed test with the accelerator turned off. This will give you a more accurate idea of your speeds. Most speed programs will not properly read when the various accelerators are on.
Don't get me wrong, where air card service is good it can be really good but highly unlikely that you could get that kind of speed with an actual download. The other thing you can do to test it is to do an actual download and see that the download rate was when it finishes.
You also might want to remove the top line of the graphic you posted as that might be your actual IP address. I did a ping and it did resolve to that site. If that is your IP address it would leave you open to an attack.
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:22 PM   #32
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Bill,

Thanks for the tip about the IP address. I revised my post. I didn't recognize that as problem.

I am not aware of an accelerator. Even so, I am impressed with the speed of the new Rev. A card. It is much, much faster and I am in an area of marginal cell phone reception.
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:55 AM   #33
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bill Adams:
LK23,
Now try that speed test with the accelerator turned off. This will give you a more accurate idea of your speeds. Most speed programs will not properly read when the various accelerators are on.
Don't get me wrong, where air card service is good it can be really good but highly unlikely that you could get that kind of speed with an actual download. The other thing you can do to test it is to do an actual download and see that the download rate was when it finishes.
You also might want to remove the top line of the graphic you posted as that might be your actual IP address. I did a ping and it did resolve to that site. If that is your IP address it would leave you open to an attack. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The latest version of Access Manager no longer uses or offers the Venturi accelerator software or server access. Don't know which version LK23 is using, but with a Rev A card I would think the latest one (6.2.4 (1641C).

The upload speeds he shows are possible I think. Rev A is supposed to have the biggest improvement in the upload rate from the current 50 to 70 Kbps to a more broadband-like 300 to 400 Kbps.
The download rate seems a little high though but maybe still possible.
The Rev A download rate is improved less - to 450 - 800 Kbps, although the peak burst rate is 3.1 Mbps.
Maybe he hit some good burst speeds.
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:07 AM   #34
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Clay,

Thanks for clarifying what an accelerator is. No, I am not using Venturi accelerator software.

I will start an new thread since I think others can benefit by my experience with EVDO broadband.
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All of the cellular cards are going to use accelerators just as satellite internet does whether it shows as an option or not.
Clay, what were your speeds when you did an actual file download?
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bill Adams:
All of the cellular cards are going to use accelerators just as satellite internet does whether it shows as an option or not.
Clay, what were your speeds when you did an actual file download? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't have a Rev A card yet so my speeds shouldn't be as fast as those LK23 got.
(Plan to get one next summer when I renew my data contract.)

I just downloaded 849 kB in 4.79 sec. That would be 177 kBps or for an 8 bit byte 1417 kbps.
That seemed too fast - probably reflected mostly burst speed) so I downloaded Firefox - 5730 kB in 46.83 seconds. That should be 979 kbps.

When I just ran speed tests at three different test sites I got a high speed of 1160 kbps and a low of 711 kbps. Upload speeds varied from 97 kbps to 110 kbps.
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:30 AM   #37
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bill Adams:
All of the cellular cards are going to use accelerators just as satellite internet does whether it shows as an option or not.
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I just spoke to Verizon customer service and they said there is no acceleration in the cards. The guy I spoke with seemed knowledgeable.

This is what I found out from talking to him.
At one time they used Venturi software that intercepted your web site address request and connected to it via a high speed broadband connection, downloaded the info, compressed it and sent it to your computer where it was de-compressed.

This gave an effective increase in speed but did fake out speed test sites because they would see the Venturi server connection speed instead of the overall speed which would be slower since the compressed data were sent at a slower speed.

That is no longer being used and is no longer included in VZ Access. (I don't use the VZ Access software anyway, my card is plugged into a Kyocera wireless router.)

The speeds they advertise are the actual speeds that data are transferred to and from your computer.

Some of the higher speeds being seen now are the result of burst speeds and are accurate but don't necessarily reflect the actual average speed unless the downloaded file is large enough.
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Those are really good results. Anything that gets 800+K down even with the 100K up speeds will give a very workable connection. Thanks for the update.
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I used to use the cellphone for a modem, went to a Cingular air card, just because we have good Cingular service at home. We have used it all over the US and in Alaska also, We have no other option at home, well worth the money. I use an external antenna most of the time. Works great going down the road and we need to look at a website.
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