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Old 05-24-2008, 02:58 PM   #1
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A few weeks ago crossing NM on I-40 I ran over a deer. The only damage was the loss of my rear Winnebago mud flap. It was torn off and went under the Jeep. IMO it was beyond repair, so I left it with the deer...

Where and how much is it going to cost to replace it. Then too, I am have second thoughts about replacing it. Anyone run without a rear mud flap on their DP?

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Old 05-24-2008, 02:58 PM   #2
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A few weeks ago crossing NM on I-40 I ran over a deer. The only damage was the loss of my rear Winnebago mud flap. It was torn off and went under the Jeep. IMO it was beyond repair, so I left it with the deer...

Where and how much is it going to cost to replace it. Then too, I am have second thoughts about replacing it. Anyone run without a rear mud flap on their DP?

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Old 05-24-2008, 04:03 PM   #3
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I'll be interested too in what kind of responses you get.

I've had several folks tell me that they took theirs off because it's been said that the toad gets more road rash from having the full-width mud guard in place than when having nothing there. I guess it's because of the wind turbulence or some such reasoning.

I know that I don't use a shield of any kind and my toad shows it with a lot of road rash on the front end and a heavily pitted windshield. I've often wondered if it would be better to run without it.

Just before I bought my unit, I was looking at another Journey that didn't have one. I told the salesman that I thought it would be a good idea to have one and he said if I did want them to put one on, don't go with the Winnebago monogrammed one because you can get almost the same type in the aftermarket that would cost less than half the price that Winnebago charges for the OEM model.

Plus, it's free advertising for Winnebago on top of the more expensive price they charge for it.

From my recollection, the Winnebago one was about $425 and the aftermarket one was $195.
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Old 05-24-2008, 04:31 PM   #4
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I have towed both ways and with similar coaches, both DP's. I have not noticed any difference what so ever to my toad. Not sure how scientific my experience is but take it for what it is worth. I prefer the Mudflap across the back just because I think it does help keep dirt and what not off the back of the coach not the toad.
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Old 05-24-2008, 06:22 PM   #5
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Why replace it? There are lots of posts about damage to toads with these full length gravel kickers.....you ever drive your car behind a motorhome with these things on it?
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Old 05-24-2008, 06:32 PM   #6
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We use the Blue Ox shield on our tow bar. It is easy to install and makes a big, big difference in the way the front of the car looks. No damage of any kind in the year (11,000 miles) we have been towing the Saturn. We also have the factory mud flap. I don't want to pull without either one.
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Old 05-25-2008, 03:57 AM   #7
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Saturn makes a bonnet for the front of the car.
I have used one since 04, with a guard on My Diesel and I have no guard on my Adventurer. I do see a difference on a rainy day...
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Old 05-25-2008, 04:54 AM   #8
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We bought the large Ultraguard and cut it in half. Ended up with two for less than 70.00 for the pair.

Does it provide any protection? Don't know. I am amazed at the beating the toad takes back there. If we did it again, think we would do the skirt thing.
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Old 05-25-2008, 07:14 AM   #9
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The debris that those duals kick up is amazing. I have mud flaps on the duals and the large flap across the back end. The location of the large mud flap on the back can also make a difference. When the flap is on the very end of the vehicle it seems to block less debris as opposed to being closer to the tires. I believe the more protection from flying road debris the bettter.

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Old 05-25-2008, 05:36 PM   #10
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From everything I have read about people removing them due to damage on gravel roads, etc, I don't believe I would pay much to replace mine. I do believe that the closer to the road it hangs, the more damage it will cause to the toad due to "sweeping" debris/sand/etc up off the road surface.

I imagine we all have short mud flaps immediately behind the rear tires. We also use a Blue Ox "Kargard" shield. Those also can cause unintended damage from rocks bouncing off the shield into the rear of the coach. I guess we can choose where we want our damage to come from!!
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Old 05-25-2008, 07:09 PM   #11
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I believe that there are more factors involved than just with or without a full width flap. I do agree that it should not drag the surface and that it should be as close to the rear wheels as possible. That said I have the factory flap on my DP and after pulling my 2004 CR-V over 40,000 have zero damage on any kind on the car. However, I do believe that my experience is helped by the lower body cladding on the front of the auto. That is one reason I got the car.
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Old 05-26-2008, 03:52 AM   #12
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The position of the Ultra Guard is very important to its effectiveness. I have mine about two feet aft of the duals, which also have mud guards. It has worked very well so far. The mounting instructions tell you how close to the road it should be for optimum protection. Going on 7 years now and no damage to toad. When I used a bra I had big time damage.
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Old 05-26-2008, 12:50 PM   #13
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Guys,

I want to thank you for your imput. I think that for now I am going to replace it with an UltraGuard from Camping World. $89 for one thats 16". $99 for a 20". I am going to have to find a Winne so I can measure to see which one to buy. Again Thanks.
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Old 05-26-2008, 02:53 PM   #14
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my Question has allways been, does that rear flap help to push the air up to the radiator, helping to cool?
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