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Old 04-10-2003, 08:11 AM   #1
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Just saw two winnebagos with roofs flapping in the wind. Can you say weak design?

The fiberglass roof material (thin) is warranted by its manufacturer for 10 years not winnebago.
Winnebago will not even warranty their application of the material for more than a year!!
It may be glued in the middle but the sides and ends are just bent and tucked in with the pressure and the mighty thin line of caulk holding it in place!! A good cross wind will send your roof a flappin if you are not careful. Talk about design issues. The whole process seems to be designed to fail in 3 to 4 years!

I would look at other RV manufacturers, as de-lamination is also only covered by winnebago for 1 year!

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Old 04-10-2003, 08:11 AM   #2
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Just saw two winnebagos with roofs flapping in the wind. Can you say weak design?

The fiberglass roof material (thin) is warranted by its manufacturer for 10 years not winnebago.
Winnebago will not even warranty their application of the material for more than a year!!
It may be glued in the middle but the sides and ends are just bent and tucked in with the pressure and the mighty thin line of caulk holding it in place!! A good cross wind will send your roof a flappin if you are not careful. Talk about design issues. The whole process seems to be designed to fail in 3 to 4 years!

I would look at other RV manufacturers, as de-lamination is also only covered by winnebago for 1 year!

RUSTIC is good.
Kudos to those who make Local, State & Federal Parks & Campgrounds possible and to those picking up the slack by Providing Private Campgrounds.
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Old 04-10-2003, 09:22 AM   #3
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Our 2000 Adv. leaked when we got it, had it to the dealer several times, he used the machine and even put a new window in. It leaks some where in that caulk line. The factory recaulked it, we started home, 250 miles away it was leaking again. Factory fixed it a second time. Now 1 1/2 yr later it is leaking again. Of course new cauking hasn't stopped it yet. It does no damage just runs along the side rail and comes in the window but is aggrivating as all get out. We love our Bago but may try Newmar next for their 3 yr warranty. They did put a note in our history that if delam ever occurs they will cover it so I don't suspect that will be a problem since it doesn't actually get into the sidewall.
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Old 04-16-2003, 05:39 AM   #4
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Diesel-Lover,

Just curious. Do you remember the years of these two Winnebagos? Were they new units or very old units?

I have a 2001 and inspect the roof each time I clean it, about every 3 months, and still haven't noticed any caulking deterioration around anything.

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Old 04-16-2003, 03:28 PM   #5
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John, I also have an 01, and had an older 29 Brave before that. I check the caulking as well as a number of other things, whenever I have a few minutes. My roof seams all are good, and show no signs of sealant separation from the panel or J channel. If you call Winnebago customer assistance they will take you through the inspection process and answer any questions that might come up.

Their roof installation and sealing process has been the same "forever", and if this not a good system, there would have been write-ups in MH magazines, and other news sources as well as the Wall Street Journal, (they are a publicly held company). If it were a bad design, they would have changed it long ago. Widespread problems of this or any other nature, would bring pressure on the company, from it's stockholders, even IF the CEO and the design team didn't think that change was necessary.

Many many Winnebago owners are repeat buyers because they are a high quality unit. Not because they cost less than competetive models. They often cost a little more at any given price point.

In case you haven't noticed, diesel-lover has been bashing Winnebago on several forums, starting "new topics" containing the same redirect.

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Old 04-17-2003, 03:33 AM   #6
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I own a 2001 Winnebago Adventurer and perform preventive maintenance on it from time to time, inspecting the roof is just one of the things I do. I usually wash the complete coach every 3 months and inspect the roof at that time. I have not noticed any deterioration of the caulking on any seams. I had a Coachmen before this with a rubber roof and did the same preventive maintenance and had to recaulk after 9 months.

You perform PM on the motor, generator, heater, tires, and various other components of the motor home, why not all the seams also, to include the roof seams? To me this is a no-brainier. And yes, stuff happens to cause problems and you must deal with them as they come up. Prime example, had a house that I owned for two years, got a little wind storm and some of the roof material came off, did I require the builder to replace them at no cost? I don't think so, same thing with anything you buy, nothing last forever.

Just my thoughts on the matter. I am sure Diesel-Lover has a unit that he loves and provides preventive maintenance too, just as I am sure that he is just trying to inform others of potential problems but I sure would like some specifics. But like I suggested, problems could be avoided with proper preventive maintenance on anything you own, to include the coffee pot which must be cleaned out from time to time to prevent calcium deposits.

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Old 04-17-2003, 09:28 AM   #7
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Not sure if I understand how a roof "flaps in the wind". Fellow with a similar name on another forum is constantly slamming Winnebago products. Wonder is this the same guy?

If not, my apologies in advance.
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Old 04-17-2003, 02:03 PM   #8
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I have seen rubber roofs a flappin down the road.
I have never heard of a Winnie's roof come loose or flap in the wind.
All aluminum and fiberglass roofing panels are thin on every brand. This is of a skin design not for structural entegrity.

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Old 04-17-2003, 04:24 PM   #9
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Somethin's flappin allright, but it ain't a roof!!!

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Old 04-19-2003, 07:44 PM   #10
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IMHO I think that if you were talking to Diesel Lover face to face the only thing flapping would be his lips.
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Old 04-20-2003, 04:54 AM   #11
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That roof seam can be deceiving. I was cleaning my roof and as I got close to the edge I put my hand on the curve of the roof. I was surprised to feel the roof panel give in a little, as the sealant looked perfect. I then figured I better check a little closer. I found the roof was bonded well to the channel for about 3 feet back from the front then there was a stretch of about 12 feet where I could push the roof panel inward from the outer edge of the channel. It was then ok for another 10 feet, then a small amount at the rear was separated. This was the driver's side. The awning side was perfect. My inspections now include running my hand along the seam to be sure the roof panel is bonded securely to the channel.

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Old 04-20-2003, 06:51 AM   #12
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It is sounding like this post is more fiction than fact. This comes as a bit of a relief, as I was starting to be concerned about the roof assembly on my new 2003 Itasca. It is still a good idea to regularly inpect the seams, but we shouldn't have to live in fear of a poorly constructed roof. I do have more faith in Winnebago than that.

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Old 04-20-2003, 08:26 AM   #13
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I checked our roof, ( it's easy to do, just push on the roof material above the J trim and see if the sealant is doing it's job ),and found about a 4" long area along the J trim that needed re sealed. I cleaned about four foot of the old sealant off and noticed that there was about one inch of the roof material that was short and would not stay in the J trim. This was early in the morning and the motor home was in the shade.
After I returned from the RV dealer with the new
sealant, the MH roof was in the sun and had warmed up, the roof material was no longer short.
I re sealed the edge and it looks good. No big deal.
But the one that gets me is the 1.5 year old Sea Breeze that had delam under a window and the owner was told by the factory, that he was supposed to remove and reseal the windows once a year.
I read that on a post about a year ago.
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Old 04-20-2003, 01:05 PM   #14
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I tested the roof/gutter seam on mine last fall and found a few places where I could press on the roof and it would show a gap at the gutter. I bought a roll of Eternabond tape, cut it into 1" strips and applied it over the seam overlapping the gutter about 3/16". It was a fairly simple procedure and I don't expect to ever have to replace it as Eternabond has a very aggressive adhesive. It will also stretch when the roof expands and contracts.
Best place to buy the tape is:
http://www.rooferstoolsonline.com/etrosewh.html
By the way, it is white and matches the roof color perfectly.

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