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Old 01-16-2003, 08:23 AM   #57
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Whoops! Forgot a couple of dislikes:

Yes it is true the cab seats (fabric) have a very rough feel and you feel like you are sliding out of the seat on both the driver and passenger side and the drivers seat is too low. I am only 6 foot and do not have extra long legs but I had to shim up the driver's seat to raise it and shimmed up the front of the seat further to help with the sliding sensation. It seems the fabric tugs at your cloths. Even with these modifications, I still have to sit on a foam pad to keep my rear from killing me from the springs that dig in due to the lack of padding. Also, the lounge (recilining with a foot rest) is usless. It looks like a recliner when extended but the foot rest only strikes you under the top of your calf and it doesn't come up high enough to provide any measure of support. It is a Flexsteel and is a waste of space. Finally, the lounge chair is too close to the pull out card table (between lounge chair and swiveled passenger seat. You have no place to put your right arm when using the table for a drink or snack holder. You end up having to lower your right arm rest to a uncomfortable position so you can get your arm "under" the table.

Anyway, with all my complaining, I do actually like the hot water feature (heated by the engine while traveling and the coach heat provide by the floor vents thoughout(provided by the engine).
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Old 01-16-2003, 10:47 AM   #58
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by grundy7:
Whoops! Forgot a couple of dislikes:

Yes it is true the cab seats (fabric) have a very rough feel and you feel like you are sliding out of the seat on both the driver and passenger side and the drivers seat is too low. I am only 6 foot and do not have extra long legs but I had to shim up the driver's seat to raise it and shimmed up the front of the seat further to help with the sliding sensation. It seems the fabric tugs at your cloths. Even with these modifications, I still have to sit on a foam pad to keep my rear from killing me from the springs that dig in due to the lack of padding.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Out of curiosity, do you have the optional 6-way power driver seat? We opted for that and it works like a charm for us. I'm 6'1" 225.

The only problem we had with it was that the seat pedestal was mounted ****-eyed, so that when sitting perfectly straight in the chair, you were pointed more toward the radio than the front of the coach. Dealer fixed it under warranty.

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Old 01-19-2003, 06:02 AM   #59
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Excellent topic, Ghost. The engineers and designers should take note. I especially appreciate the engineering and fit and finish that results from WI making most of the items that goes in our coaches.

I have consistently complained about their interior design, especially in the Ultimate brand. They are last in color and look. I'm not talking glitz either :-) and, I am on a crusade to have them re engineer the dash to lower the **** pit and provide height challenged folks, my wife, clearer site lines.

The latter is a deal breaker for me. If they don't change this soon, I will be buying an SOB> :-(

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Old 01-22-2003, 11:30 AM   #60
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Ghost,

In reply to your question, "Did I have the power seat option in our Itasca"? No, it came with standard Flexsteel fabric seats. Very uncomfortable. I am thinking of replacing them with something from Camper World. right now I am living with the shimming up of the seat front and sitting on a foam pad to keep my rear from going numb.
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Old 01-22-2003, 01:03 PM   #61
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by grundy7:
Ghost,

In reply to your question, "Did I have the power seat option in our Itasca"? No, it came with standard Flexsteel fabric seats. Very uncomfortable. I am thinking of replacing them with something from Camper World. right now I am living with the shimming up of the seat front and sitting on a foam pad to keep my rear from going numb.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Another option for you may be the Winnebago surplus store there in Iowa. Last time I was there they had a bunch of extra seats sitting around. Never did check to see if they were power or not, but there was a lot of leather...

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Old 01-22-2003, 03:45 PM   #62
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Power Seats - OK
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by grundy7:
"Did I have the power seat option in our Itasca"? No, it came with standard Flexsteel fabric seats. Very uncomfortable.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The limited range of motion between the front of the slideout and the steering wheel doesn't give the driver a lot of movement one way or the other. The seat tilt feature sometimes helps but it gets you closer to the steering wheel. A combination of tilting the seat and adjusting the seatback works for me. The best feature of the power seat is its ability to go vertical. The positioning of the legs in reference to the floor of the cab is very important to finding a comfortable driving position.

On the Winnebago Adventurer if the slideout were deeper and retracted into the cab an additional 6 inches the seat back would completely fit in between the lip of the slideout and the wall. This would give the driver the ability to back the seat up by 4 to 6 additional inches.

I believe that Al's Windsport allows this type of seating configuration.

Ordering a new motorhome we would opt for no leather and just the driver's seat being power. The leather sticks in the summer and the passenger power seat's features are infrequently used because the passenger has plenty of room to sprawl out. I do recommend that the driver opt for the power seat option.

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Old 01-22-2003, 05:50 PM   #63
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* Sleek styling and construction of all- aluminum cargo bay doors
* Basement air - no drips from roof air, better clearance, lower CG
* Allison 6-spd "World" transmission
* Upscale interior and fabrics

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Old 02-09-2003, 07:59 AM   #64
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dislike that winniebago wont stand behind there products!!
dislike that there dealers wont stand behind what they sell
dislike that there new coachs leak and they dont care.
dislike once they got your money your out of here
!!
dislike there warrenty or lack of.
dislike the fact that the factory pointed out a flaw in the roof to the dealer but wants 80 bucks to fix it and its still under warranty
dislike the fact that I will not buy a winnebago
because of IT.
the factory was not upfront when I ask about service bulliten on the leaking roof(weepholes)
other than that is ok!(maybe its a class c thing)
read some of the forms(class c)on trailer life.com maybe winnebago should look on that form
like 8.1 chev power
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Old 02-14-2003, 09:23 AM   #65
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I like that my 2000 Sunflyer feels like a home - since it IS my only home, I like the nice decor, light wood, big refrigerator, etc.

I like that Winnebago has responded to all my concerns and problems even though I was the second owner and was out of warranty, Bryan Funke has been great!

I also dislike the plastic drawer glides that are constantly breaking - I've had to replace every one of them.

I dislike that the black paint is flaking off the handrails on both sides - what's that about?

I dislike the fact that they installed the seatbelt on backwards and the belt won't lie straight even though I unbolted and rebolted it. (need to rethread belt through loop and I haven't figured out how to do that)

I mainly like that my home will take me anywhere I want to go!

I may have gripes, but I am so blessed to be able to live this full-time RV life...


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Old 02-14-2003, 12:42 PM   #66
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Excellent! It's always nice to hear from new folks that have embarked on the full timing lifestyle. *sigh* Someday!

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Old 02-14-2003, 01:56 PM   #67
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I am really impressed with the 8.1 liter engine, the Workhorse chassis and the Allison Tranny. It makes for a GREAT handling coach! We both love the electric sofa.

I wish they'd design a trash recepticle that you used in the coach, near the kitchen, that dumped into one of the basement storage bins. They did put in a clothes hamper, that is very handy to have.

I wish they'd NOT put the clothes hanging bar at the very top of the closet, thereby wasting a lot of space. I re-installed it sixteen inches lower, and put a cedar shelf immediately above it, creating a tremendous amount of storage space that was going wasted. Winnebago HAS to be smarter than I am, and should have figured this out already. Small expense, HUGE increase in the number one item we all want: more storage!

I'm probably going to get clobbered on this one, but I don't understand why they don't just have ONE storage tank for black and grey water. It seems to me that it instantly solves the "not-enough-water-in-the-black-tank-to-keep-everything-wet" problem, and makes dumping time, hooking up, etc, activities cut in half (only one tank to drain). It also solves the issue of, one of your holding tanks is completely full, and the other one has only a few gallons in it...as they'd drain into one tank, you'd always be able to use the maximum storage.

I must quickly state that we LOVE out coach! It's been the single biggest source of enjoyment in our lives for many a moon. I'm just mad at myself that I didn't explore this lifestyle sooner...AND, you meet the nicest people RV'ing...(HI, Lou and Robin, thinking of you guys!)...

Also, I wish the salesman had told me that 22.5 inch tires were available on my model when I bought it, but I guess that's really my fault, for not doing better homework.

It's VERY obvious from the countless little details that Winnie installed on their coaches, that they have put a tremendous amount of time into satisfying customer wants. I'm sure that in time, they will add all of the items we've listed here. Meanwhile, I honestly don't believe that there is a better coach on the market for the money.

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Old 02-20-2003, 02:01 PM   #68
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We have the 35u 2001 and love it. We had a couple of minor problems but Winnebago took care of everything--even after the warranty was up. We even had all the plastic drawer holders replaced!Customer service has been great and so has the coach.

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Old 02-20-2003, 04:40 PM   #69
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I love the floorplan on our 35U Sunflyer. The systems throughout were easy to learn and use.

Count me as another who thinks the fabrics/carpet chosen for the interior are poor quality and tend to make me go "ewwww!" when I walk in. Ivory anything gets dingy looking very quickly.

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