Hi all you Winnebago folks and those who have a better idea.
I have a separation of the front cap to roof sealant bead. I don't like what Winnebago used because it looks like it will just fail again. I am open for suggestions.
Thanks,
Rick
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Rick & Melissa Young & Dawson (RIP), 2011 Meridian 40U, FL XCL, ISL 380HP/DEF, Al 3000 MH, 2014 Honda CR-V, SMI AF1, Blue Ox TruCenter & tow equip.,EEZTire TPMS. Servants On Wheels Ever Ready. Best job we ever paid to do . (full time volunteers)
Hi all you Winnebago folks and those who have a better idea. I have a separation of the front cap to roof sealant bead. I don't like what Winnebago used because it looks like it will just fail again. I am open for suggestions. Thanks, Rick
Eternabond
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Terry & Alice
2006 Bounder 38L DP
2012 GMC Terrain
Eternabond and or Dicor self leveling...whatever you use, make sure the surface is clean and old caulk is removed as best as can be.
I have seen the tape used recently on a 5th wheel and I was not impressed. I have used Dyco C-10 but I don't recall where I bought it. The tube I have is dead.
Winnebago has a long part # with no real info. The Dyco C-10 is a self leveling rubbery caulk. That is what I am hoping to find.
As far a cleaning out the old caulk, in some areas, like this one, it may not be the best idea. When I get the junk off the seam that was not used from the factory I will have a better idea.
About that bad stuff used on my coach: It probably looked good on day one. I think it is a soft material and may come paper backed on a role. I have no real idea. But now it has come up and bubbled where ever I find it. I have not had the time or weather conditions to get involved in this project until now. It's a big job made worse by a bad previous job. All I know is that it peals up like a flat snake and the residue left behind washes off with ease. My goal is to get all of this junk off and fix the real problem areas like the one I aforementioned.
Any help I receive on this forum is always valuable, even if I don't agree or use a particular recommendation. Choices are always good. Thanks.
Rick
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Rick & Melissa Young & Dawson (RIP), 2011 Meridian 40U, FL XCL, ISL 380HP/DEF, Al 3000 MH, 2014 Honda CR-V, SMI AF1, Blue Ox TruCenter & tow equip.,EEZTire TPMS. Servants On Wheels Ever Ready. Best job we ever paid to do . (full time volunteers)
How about wide Eternabond (it comes in widths from 2" to 48") and then self-leveling along the edges. This is a sort of belt-and-suspenders thing, but it worked well on my previous RV.
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Don Simmons
2006 Winnebago Voyage 33V Pushed by a 2014 Chevrolet Captiva
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Geo-Cell. I don't recommend Eterna-Bond. I know lots of people like it, but if you DO ever have to remove it, it doesn't come off very well. And it doesn't last forever.
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Don
'07 Winnebago Journey 34H - CAT C7, Koni's, MCU's, SS Bell Crank, Safe-T-Plus
'07 HHR Toad, SMI AFO, Blue OX
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Geo-Cell. I don't recommend Eterna-Bond. I know lots of people like it, but if you DO ever have to remove it, it doesn't come off very well. And it doesn't last forever.
This is my concern, exactly. We spend many months is cooking sun. Not always by first choice. The tape jobs I have seen looked a bit cooked. Cleanup and repair was going to be a challenge for the owner.
AggieDad may have the right idea, just the wrong products. I have used helicopter tape in the past. I am now considering getting a 2" role of this stuff and coating it with something like the Dyco C-10 product. The tape would act as a expansion joint and the C-10 a flexible protectant/sealer/bond assurer. The C-10 is removable with a putty knife and the tape the same. I have not posted pictures of my challenge yet but I will do so.
With my idea, I am still open to suggestions. I am still hoping to hear from someone who has concord this problem. The way Winnebago marries the roof and front cap seems like a leak waiting to happen.
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Rick & Melissa Young & Dawson (RIP), 2011 Meridian 40U, FL XCL, ISL 380HP/DEF, Al 3000 MH, 2014 Honda CR-V, SMI AF1, Blue Ox TruCenter & tow equip.,EEZTire TPMS. Servants On Wheels Ever Ready. Best job we ever paid to do . (full time volunteers)
The problem is that not all the white tape is really EternaBond. KoolKote and other roofing material vendors sell a similar (imitation) product which will delaminate in a few years so that the mylar film blows away leaving just the butle rubber adhesive unprotected.
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Neil V
2001 Winnebago Adventurer WFG35U
jerichorick - What the heck is helicopter tape? I never heard of it.
By the way, my tape and self-leveling was on a Trail-Lite B+ where the front cap and the roof come together. So at least a parallel situation if not an exact duplicate.
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Don Simmons
2006 Winnebago Voyage 33V Pushed by a 2014 Chevrolet Captiva
Visit us at Travels With Linda
If you want something that is a permanent, flexible, extremely strong adhesive-sealant, look into 3M's 5200. It was originally manufactured for the marine industry, and it's properties are actually rated for constand underwater (e.g. below the waterline on boats). It is a once and done solution.
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CaptBill
USAF 1965-1971; USCG Master
2002 Horizon 36LD - 2000 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4
Indian River, De
It is the same option stuff Winnebago protects the nose of the new coaches with. But as you can see from the link, this stuff is not cheap.
CaptBill, I have heard of the 3M 5200. Where do you get it?
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Rick & Melissa Young & Dawson (RIP), 2011 Meridian 40U, FL XCL, ISL 380HP/DEF, Al 3000 MH, 2014 Honda CR-V, SMI AF1, Blue Ox TruCenter & tow equip.,EEZTire TPMS. Servants On Wheels Ever Ready. Best job we ever paid to do . (full time volunteers)
I have bought it in Lowes or H.D., in standard caulking gun cartridges, and for a lot less than you will pay in marine supply stores, like West Marine. The unused portion in the cartridges will not have a very long shelf life at room temp, but it will keep for many months (or more), in the freezer. Simple take it out the day before you need it, and it still flows freely.
The stuff will get on your hands and clothes, and is difficult to remove, so I'd wear old clothes, and disposable latex gloves. It tends to self-level, when put on a horizontal surface, like the seam where the front cap joins fiberglass roof. But you don't need gobs of it, so long as it is 2 clean surfaces where they meet.
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CaptBill
USAF 1965-1971; USCG Master
2002 Horizon 36LD - 2000 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4
Indian River, De
While 3M 5200 is the ultimate sealant, standard construction grade polyurethane sealant comes a close second for adhesion, stretch-ability and longevity:
Yea, Stan. I got burnt with the date of the product once. What I did get is ProFlexRV. I got this from an RV dealer the other day before I learned about the 5300. This week has been a tough week; very physically demanding. I will try to work on the roof in the morning. Prescott has NO due in the morning so, as soon as it is warm enough, I can fix the roof. I am going to try to post before and after pictures. I hope they are 'readable'.
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Rick & Melissa Young & Dawson (RIP), 2011 Meridian 40U, FL XCL, ISL 380HP/DEF, Al 3000 MH, 2014 Honda CR-V, SMI AF1, Blue Ox TruCenter & tow equip.,EEZTire TPMS. Servants On Wheels Ever Ready. Best job we ever paid to do . (full time volunteers)
Thanks all for your suggestions. I ended up using ProFlex. It costs about $11 at the local RV store. The job is done and it looks like it will work.
I cleaned as much of the old stuff out of the seam and off the roof. Then I cleaned the repair area with windex after sweeping the junk out of the way. Then I stuffed the opened space between the roof and the cap with backer rod. I then applied the ProFlex and ran my finger over it to insure good contact on all hidden surfaces and a smooth finish. After a little retouching with extra caulk I was satisfied. I hope the following pictures make things a bit clearer. The pictures are not in the order I had hoped for. I think you can tell the before and after results. Time will tell if I did a good job or not.
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Rick & Melissa Young & Dawson (RIP), 2011 Meridian 40U, FL XCL, ISL 380HP/DEF, Al 3000 MH, 2014 Honda CR-V, SMI AF1, Blue Ox TruCenter & tow equip.,EEZTire TPMS. Servants On Wheels Ever Ready. Best job we ever paid to do . (full time volunteers)