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Old 05-11-2015, 08:36 AM   #1
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Itasca 27N/Schwintek Slide Question

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My wife and I like just about everything in the 27n model except the Schwintek slide system. This unit has three slides, one is a full wall.
I am greatly concerned about the slide system malfunctioning and I am now undecided if I should purchase or not.
I have spoken to an RV technician who has nothing to win/lose by my purchase. He recommended against buying the unit unless the slides had been upgraded. He said that the upgraded slides will have two track bars at the top of the slide, instead of one.
Since I do not have easy access to inspect a new unit, can anyone tell me if the new units are upgraded?
Would you buy one without the upgrade?
Thank you for any assistance/advice.
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Old 05-11-2015, 01:02 PM   #2
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Just took a quick look at a for sale ad to see if the full wall slide on that floor plan had the 2 or 3 track Schwintek slide drive...it looks like it's only the 2 track.

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I cannot offer a recommendation to buy or not...but can report that Winnie appears to be using the 2 Track for the FWS in this model.


I have been watching this equipment evolution with interest, because these slide drives are NOT going away (thanks to big cost and weight savings).
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IMHO - ALL the builders should learn from the 2013-2014 Palazzo fiasco with the 2 track Schwintek Slide Drive failures. The issue is that these LARGE slides are VERY heavy and the size alone increases the torque placed on the drive systems because of leverage too.

Having said this, the Full Wall Slide on this floor plan is not as deep as the other 2 slides...BUT that is still A LOT of weight with the entire kitchen being on that slide box.

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Old 05-11-2015, 02:51 PM   #3
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We have a 2013 27N and so far have had not issues with any of the slides. The large slide is not as large as some of the full wall slides in the big Diesel Pusher....

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Old 05-11-2015, 03:33 PM   #4
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superlucky, There have been several upgrades to the Schwintek slide system mostly with changing the gear box ratio and motor Torque. There is a new design on some of the longer slides where the rail is offset from the slide wall and only fasten at the ends, the motor and gear box look the same. I have not seen any Winnebago's with 2 track bars at the top. Winnebago is using the Powergear under floor rail system on the deep slides. The shorter shallow slides do not seam to have had the issues that showed up on the long deep slides. We have not had any problems with ours and we have been in some really cold and really hot weather.
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I have a 2013 Vista 27N. I have not had a problem with any of the slides in two years and 10,000 miles. I was told to always level first and have the engine running when extending or retracting the slides. I also keep the gears lubed as shown in the Lippert YouTube video
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Old 05-11-2015, 07:15 PM   #6
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I believe that at least on some models or configurations, Winnebago has already changed to the new Power Gear In-Wall slide system.

With the Schwintek system, as mentioned before, always have the coach level and have the engine running before extending or retracting the slides. Also, never stop the slide at any point. The side should be moved all the way out or all the way in every time. Hold the button down for 3-5 seconds after the slide has stopped. This allows the motors to calibrate. This is especially important with larger slides.
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:07 AM   #7
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Thank you for all of the replies. I think I will get the unit, as long as it has the upgraded mechanism.

Look forward to seeing you on the road!

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Old 05-12-2015, 09:48 AM   #8
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superlucky, with the last 5 digits of the Winnebago serial number you can go online and get the service parts list for the coach. Will show all parts used to build the unit and the build date.
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Old 05-12-2015, 04:05 PM   #9
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The Power Gear In-Wall Slide system is new, so there's no guarantee that it will be without problems. At least with the Schwintek system, it's been out there for a while and hopefully all the bugs have been worked out.
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:22 AM   #10
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Itasca 27N/Schwintek Slide Question

I have just left Forest City after being there for two days with my 30T with slide issues. Bought the coach new last August. All three slides needed work, with one having "broken parts". The technician said that "poor/incorrect installation during the assembly of the coach" was the problem. They seem to be working fine now but sure I was very disappointed that this was not caught during the QA process before the RV left the plant. Every person I met in the waiting room was having Schwintec slide issues. Let's hope Winnebago is now on top of this. It is real hard to build a reputation for quality and real easy to loose that reputation. The Lippert jacks also needed recalibration as they had never worked properly from day one, and so I would use them manually. This also seems to have been corrected, so hopefully my confidence in the Winne product will be restored. Eleven years and 85,000 miles on a new 2003 Sunova 27C with no problems had me sold on the Winne brand!

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Old 05-13-2015, 07:17 PM   #11
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Thanks for the additional replies. I like the idea of seeing what parts are on the coach. I'll take the laptop when I go to look at the new units!

It is sad to hear that the folks at the factory were all there for slide issues. It was stories like this that gave me pause about purchasing the unit.

Thanks

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