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Old 07-28-2015, 09:03 AM   #15
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Thanks for all the helpful replies. I did note that one of you mentioned that you don't use the auto leveling. Neither do I as it always put the coach way higher than it needed to be. I have been using the manual level. I think I was just being obsessive since I have a little light to tell me when I'm level vs my old trusty bubble. In the instance I mentioned where I was not level, the bubble level in the fridge was 90 percent in the circle so I was probably fine. Just new to a MH and its gadgets after having 6 5th wheels. Thanks again. This is a great forum!

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My auto leveling system sucked too when I first bought the coach. Then I read in the manual how to calibrate the whole system which I did and now it works perfectly. I do not think it was ever calibrated to begin with which does not surprise me.
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Old 07-28-2015, 11:17 AM   #16
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I like to be as level as possible, I don't like my doors not staying where I put them and the feeling of going uphill or downhill no matter how slight. It is not very hard to achieve but I always put wheels on blocks if needed and never have them off the ground. I try to get the coach as level as possible without the use of the jacks to begin with and fine tune with jacks. The jacks to me are the main stability of the coach so when people walk around inside the coach stays stable.
Outstanding answer! And yes, it's not hard at all to level a coach to be basically DEAD LEVEL. The only reason you see folks not using the levelers after they've pulled into a campsite is because they more or less, lazy. I mean, for the most part, how hard is it to push a button? Driving onto a set of blocks or ramps is simple and easy. That way, the frame of the coach, AND THE BODY doesn't get any extra strain on it. And, like the above quote states, you use the jacks for "fine tuning".

Your coach is level, ALL your tires and wheels are on the ground or ramps and, the jacks are down so, you have maximum stability and you've not over worked or, over-extended the jacks.
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Outstanding answer! And yes, it's not hard at all to level a coach to be basically DEAD LEVEL. The only reason you see folks not using the levelers after they've pulled into a campsite is because they more or less, lazy. I mean, for the most part, how hard is it to push a button? Driving onto a set of blocks or ramps is simple and easy. That way, the frame of the coach, AND THE BODY doesn't get any extra strain on it. And, like the above quote states, you use the jacks for "fine tuning".

Your coach is level, ALL your tires and wheels are on the ground or ramps and, the jacks are down so, you have maximum stability and you've not over worked or, over-extended the jacks.
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We found the system that Winnebago installed to work on a hit and miss basis in the "one button operation". Most of the times a wheel will be off the ground and there is no "lower this to level" just a "raise even higher" attitude in the programming - or the even better option of "retract". So in a simple word the system Winnebago installed is a step above junk grade.

If we park for a day or two there is no need to level more than with the bricks under the tires. All that is needed is a bit more stabilization functionality. Our previous Solera had neither and it wasn't a problem at all.

Doing the operation manually is the only way the system works for us. Maybe there are better systems installed on other RVs - but not in our Brave.

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Old 07-28-2015, 05:03 PM   #18
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We found the system that Winnebago installed to work on a hit and miss basis in the "one button operation". Most of the times a wheel will be off the ground and there is no "lower this to level" just a "raise even higher" attitude in the programming - or the even better option of "retract". So in a simple word the system Winnebago installed is a step above junk grade.

If we park for a day or two there is no need to level more than with the bricks under the tires. All that is needed is a bit more stabilization functionality. Our previous Solera had neither and it wasn't a problem at all.

Doing the operation manually is the only way the system works for us. Maybe there are better systems installed on other RVs - but not in our Brave.

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I do not know what kind of system you have in your Brave but like I mentioned above perhaps you can re calibrate yours to work correctly. I did and it now works perfect every time and it extends the jacks minimally.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:02 PM   #19
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My new 2015 32 foot Cambria seems to work very well too. It sometimes seems to overdo the job but I am very satisfied with it overall. I did have one jack that was leaking and WBG replaced it. I assumed things would have to be recalibrated but when the new jack went on, it worked with no adjustments.

I might ought to worry about my frig but my worries are keeping the thing level so the slides don't bind. My coach has 3 slides and by running the engine and trying to be level I have had absolutely no issues with the slides.
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Outstanding answer! And yes, it's not hard at all to level a coach to be basically DEAD LEVEL. The only reason you see folks not using the levelers after they've pulled into a campsite is because they more or less, lazy. I mean, for the most part, how hard is it to push a button? Driving onto a set of blocks or ramps is simple and easy. That way, the frame of the coach, AND THE BODY doesn't get any extra strain on it. And, like the above quote states, you use the jacks for "fine tuning".

Your coach is level, ALL your tires and wheels are on the ground or ramps and, the jacks are down so, you have maximum stability and you've not over worked or, over-extended the jacks.
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Or it could be that we just don't see a big deal in being perfectly level.

FWIW just for grins I ran some numbers. If I am doing it correctly 1 deg off level is around 3.5 inches on a 220 inch wheel base. We are seldom in a place that far off level.
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Or it could be that we just don't see a big deal in being perfectly level.

FWIW just for grins I ran some numbers. If I am doing it correctly 1 deg off level is around 3.5 inches on a 220 inch wheel base. We are seldom in a place that far off level.
Every RVer has to determine just what's important or, of value in any phase of RVing. It's certainly not my place to TELL people to make their coach perfectly level. It's their coach, they can do and operate it as they please. If not being perfectly level is your choice, then so be it. We often encounter campsites and even RV Park pads that are not level. About 99.99% of the RV pads we've encountered are close enough that the HWH 625 Computer Controlled Automatic Leveling System installed in our '04 Itasca Horizon will handle them easily and, do a fine job of leveling the coach to pretty much dead level.

We have also encountered very, VERY un level campsites (in the Sierra Nevada camping areas) that I needed all of my lumber I carry and more. We're the type of folks that don't like our interior doors closing or opening on their own, or, the fridge doors won't stay open when you're retrieving or putting items away, things like that.

I've done this leveling thing for so long, I can tell within almost seconds, how much I'll need to drive on or, raise or lower the coach on one end or side or, adjust both ends at the same time to get it primarily level. I say "both ends at the same time" because, there's been many times when I had to drive up on lumber on one side while I've already dug holes for the other side. Then, when I move forward, the one side drops into the holes and the other side raises.

That way you don't need to go ultra-high on the one side to accomplish the goal. Then, as usual, I just use the jacks for fine tuning and stabilizing. It's a preference thing.
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I totally agree it is a preference thing. That was my point. As long as it is not enough to be a problem we choose not to bother. At least part of that is how long we plan on being somewhere. I also carry blocks and a shovel for the places where there is a problem.
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