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Old 03-16-2015, 07:56 PM   #1
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Hello, Do you drive an rv on a Ford F53 chassis? How does it drive? Does it have enough power for a new Winnebago Brave 31? Thanks, Nancy and Phil
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Old 03-16-2015, 08:34 PM   #2
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Ford F53

I have a 2001 ford chassis with V10. 37' coach pulling a 5000lb toad. Works fine, gets the job done well.

You are talking a newer engine with more power, and an improved transmission with more speeds. Additionally a smaller/lighter house on top of it.

It will very handily get the job done. IMHO.
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Old 03-16-2015, 10:33 PM   #3
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We have the new 27B brave and no problem on power. Remember you deal wirh over 16000 lbs and it won't drive like a Mustang or get the mileage of a Prius.
We are having some front ens issues - wheel balancing, alignment and loose shock bolt - but otherwise it drives fine - almost better like our old Sprinter based RV.
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Old 03-16-2015, 11:09 PM   #4
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We have 2014 Newmar 3610 on the F53 26,000lb Chassis. Our dry weigh is 20,400 lbs, with a NCC of about 5600 lbs. Ours drive and handles great, takes the grades with no issues, and using the towhaul on down hill grades makes very little braking needed. Newmar equips our with some additional sway bars, and extends the wheelbase a little more than yours will be but it handle fine, tracks well, and does not get pushed around by the wind or passing trucks. We average about 8 mpg. So you will be fine, and have less weight to haul around.
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:46 AM   #5
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I had a 2000 F53 with the Triton V10 and pulled a 24' enclosed Pace Shadow with a Mazda rx7 race car inside. It had plenty of power to pull the load but handling was an issue. I'm sure Ford has improved the F53 since 2000.
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F53 power ?

Hello again all,

We test drove a Winnebago Brave 27 in Lubbock. Got on the freeway and set the cruise at 60mph. Lubbock is flat and just going over an overpass made the transmission downshift from fifth to third. Is this normal? Has anyone drive an F53 chassis in mountains?

Thank you all again, Nancy and Phil
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Yes that is normal and that is one reason to do the 5 star tuning. Makes it a whole different machine. Make sure the rv has a steering stabilizer on it. If it is a new machine make them sweeten the pot a little for you.


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Hello again all,

We test drove a Winnebago Brave 27 in Lubbock. Got on the freeway and set the cruise at 60mph. Lubbock is flat and just going over an overpass made the transmission downshift from fifth to third. Is this normal? Has anyone drive an F53 chassis in mountains?

Thank you all again, Nancy and Phil
Yes, it is normal for the F53 as it comes from the factory. A lot of the guys have gone to the 5-Star Tune which changes the way the transmission is used so that it will not downshift at every rise in the road-even on cruise control.

I've driven mine in the mountains a lot.
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Hello again all,

We test drove a Winnebago Brave 27 in Lubbock. Got on the freeway and set the cruise at 60mph. Lubbock is flat and just going over an overpass made the transmission downshift from fifth to third. Is this normal? Has anyone drive an F53 chassis in mountains?

Thank you all again, Nancy and Phil
I don't use the cruise control unless it is an extremely flat road. When the transmission senses a need to shift it will do so at will. When in the cruise control mode that is pretty normal. The best way I have found is to drive it without the cruise, it is nice and smooth with very little if any shifting when you are controlling the gas. As for hills, it takes them with ease, we live in Orange County Ca, and to get out of town in just about any direction you have to frequently take on grades of 6% (or more), it handles them with no problem.
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Old 03-21-2015, 09:22 AM   #10
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As everyone said it is normal. Our 27B is the same and it can drive you mad. I just do not use the cruise control any more and control the shifts with the gas pedal and let it sometimes drop more.
I noticed going around 70 it shifts not as bad.
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We had the Thor ACE on the F53 with V10 for a number of years. I would say that it is a great engine after the 5-Star tune and the cheap handling fix. See the Ford forum here at IRV for more information.
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IMO, the Ford guys that designed the engine/transmission package knew better how to get the best performance from it than the majority of users do. I let mine do its thing (though we don't have it any longer).

Having been an engineer in the motorcycle industry, I think of engines doing 5000 rpm as being just above idle! I saw a Honda 50cc 3-cylinder engine with 4 valves per cylinder at races in the UK. Peak torque was at 18,000 rpm and max rpm was 24,000. It needed a 16-speed transmission and turned out to be not as competitive as they expected, since the clutch was pulled for shifting about 15% of the time. The Norton Commando 750, which I worked on most of the time, was a 750cc parallel twin with a pushrod valve train, and that had a peak rpm about 7000. On earlier bikes than the Commando, without the flexible engine mounts, it would rattle the fillings out or your teeth.
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We have the Brave 26A on the F53 chassis. It's probably one of the lighter coaches with a V10 and it runs like a hot rod. I really have to watch the speed on the thing. Our issue with the F53 has never been power, but control. The light weight, combined with the short wheelbase (158) has made it a real "traveler". Spent some extra $ and added TruCenter, upgraded shocks, and sway bars and now it actually goes where we want it and not where we don't want it.

Don't use cruise control, but pedal control and it cuts down on the shifts.
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Old 03-22-2015, 07:55 PM   #14
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Thank you all for your comments on the F58 chassis. The 5-star tune sounds like something worth looking in to. Please remember, you folks already know a lot more about rv-ing than we do so forgive this but, what is a 5-star tune?
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