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Old 05-05-2012, 04:33 PM   #1
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Ok, this is not fun camping! It is 91 in San Antonio and the best my basement air can do is 83 inside the coach. Had experienced tech look over this morning and all he could find was the drain valve was clogged. The air vent at noon was showing an output of 59. Who else has problems with basement air? My previous coach has two roof airs and no problems. Any ideas.

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Old 05-05-2012, 08:59 PM   #2
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Mine was doing the same thing. Took it to Forest City and they changed the thermostat and cleaned the condenser. Now it works fine.
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:13 AM   #3
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Have you checked for a duct leak? Look at the a/c duct near the rear cap that comes off the a/c unit and travels vertically. You need a flashlight and lay on your back to see the duct. There may be a breach there, as shown in this pic:



The breach is common. It is repairable by using metal, air conditioning duct tape (not regular duct tape). Next pic shows the repaired duct.



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How many amps are you pulling when both compressors are operating? I had a similar problem recently and one of my compressors went out.

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Old 05-07-2012, 06:33 PM   #5
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Adding Roof air to supplement basement air

We have a sticky on the other Winnie forum about adding a roof air to supplement the inadequate basement air conditioning. Here is the stickiy link where myself and John Canfield have added an additional roof air (in place of the fantastic vent). You need to be a member on RVForum.net to see the pictures in the links.

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Old 05-08-2012, 06:48 AM   #6
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I am now hooked up at my storage and 110 power. I started the gen and then turned on air and it went from 3 amps to 17 amps. How do you know if both compressors are kicking on? Jim
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Jim, turn off breaker for ac circuit #2. Turn t-stat to cool and set at least 5 deg below room temp. Watch amps, should go up as fan motors turn on, then up again as compressor comes on. Then turn breaker back on, amps should go up as second compressor comes on.
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Another issue to check is the filter. It should be the cheapest, angel hair style, filter you can buy. Any more restrictive filter lowers the air flow too much.

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Old 05-11-2012, 06:42 AM   #9
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Following on what Thudman posted, turn the AC fan to on, not auto. Without the compressors running, stick your head under the rear cap and see if there is any air movement. If there is, it is leaking from the duckwork. That was my problem and, after retapeing, there is almost too much flow (and cooling) thru the system. You need to be creative to get the tape on good but can be done. It took me almost an hour, including resting my neck, but it's held for a year now. Dealers want to remove the cap to the tune of $1000 plus.
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Ok, this is not fun camping! It is 91 in San Antonio and the best my basement air can do is 83 inside the coach. Had experienced tech look over this morning and all he could find was the drain valve was clogged. The air vent at noon was showing an output of 59. Who else has problems with basement air? My previous coach has two roof airs and no problems. Any ideas.

Jim
I could ave written the exact same post-just change San Antonio to Austin. My A/c was "repaired" under warranty, and I've been assurred it IS functioning "as designed". I am NOT a happy camper either,-if the sun is shining the A/C runs on both compressors CONSTANTLY and inside temp won't go below 85* F. Cycles on and off and maintains much colder at night.

I was told there is too much cubic space inside my floor plan (3 slides-7' high ceilings) and the A/C "just can't keep up with the heat load. I question the existence of ANY insulation as the noise from the roof when raining is deafening. Hate to think I have to ADD a roof mounted unit to be comfortable!
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A general rule of thumb is that one compressor uses about 17 amps (in the 10s) and two compressors use amps in the 20s (about 24). It sounds like your second compressor is not running. Having said that, the insulation isn't that thick, the slide gaskets don't seal that well (especially in the corners), you have a lot of volume with the slides and the sun creates a lot of heat gain. You will do a lot better when parked in the shade or with the rear of the motorhome pointing south or southwest. Keep the blinds closed and the awnings out.. Put up window sunshades if you have them.
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A general rule of thumb is that one compressor uses about 17 amps (in the 10s) and two compressors use amps in the 20s (about 24). It sounds like your second compressor is not running. Having said that, the insulation isn't that thick, the slide gaskets don't seal that well (especially in the corners), you have a lot of volume with the slides and the sun creates a lot of heat gain. You will do a lot better when parked in the shade or with the rear of the motorhome pointing south or southwest. Keep the blinds closed and the awnings out.. Put up window sunshades if you have them.
Thanks, Doug: I have verified personally, and using "professionals", that both compressors ARE running.

Air flow is very "robust", so I don't believe I have a leak in the rear vertical. Duct differential temps are "within specs" and "they" tell me that very little improvement in performance can be expected.

Cloudy days & shady sites seem to be my only solution, other than to add a roof unit.
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Old 05-14-2012, 07:50 PM   #13
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By memory the temperature coming out the cooling vents the should be about 20 degrees cooler than the return air at the grate going back into the AC unit. In high temps my basement air will not cool the RV but if I start the air before it is hot inside it will be live able. I also leave the fan in the on mode in high to help circulate the cool air. I also put the awnings out and cover the windows to help keep the sun out. And I have a free standing portable AC unit I use when it is really hot.
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Ed, PLEASE check the rear duct work for a breach. My airflow was also good, but I still had a leak in the rear duct. I also had a temp of 85* inside the box with the leak. When I fixed it, temp came down to the 70s. Whew

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